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TOPIC: Not all Tungsten Weights are the same. What to look out for...

Not all Tungsten Weights are the same. What to look out for... 8 months 3 days ago #353

What to lookout for when buying Tungsten Fishing Weights…

One would think that price would be the first thing you should be looking at when choosing a pack of Tungstens right? Well, it’s not just that easy… when determining the “value” of a purchase of Tungsten Weights there is more to take into consideration before assuming “value” as well as “quality”.

Quantity Per Pack

First and foremost - Not all brands of Tungsten weights are packaged with the same quantities per pack. Be sure to ask your retailer/e-tailer how many weights are packaged in each pack before making your purchase. Most e-tailers should or will have their quantity per pack listed on their sites, if not you must ask! If you are in store at a retailer making your purchase you can see how many are in the pack, if not visibly obvious simply ask for assistance and insist on being shown how many there are per pack.

We have come across many brands that have one less weight per pack when compared with others, however their prices are around the same ballpark or sometimes higher than those with more weights. What is scary is watching people just purchasing without said knowledge or because the weights are a specific brand.

Inserts vs No Inserts

Again not just a simple exercise here - There are a couple of varieties out on the market that anglers should be aware of:
  • Those with Inserts
  • Those with no Inserts, but should have inserts
  • Machined Polished without inserts
The entire purpose of Tungsten Weights is to provide an angler with direct feedback of the structure they are fishing. The tungsten transmits directly through the line to the angler because of its density. Now it takes some practice and getting used to, but anglers that fish tungstens can generally tell you exactly what structure their bait is coming through because of the Tungsten Weights density. You will also be able to detect actual bites instead of that log you keep setting your hook into. Now let’s touch base on the varieties we mentioned above that are available on the market:

Tungstens with plastic inserts

Kind of detracts from the entire purpose of fishing Tungsten Weights. The plastic insert acts as a shock absorber and dulls down the sensitivity that the angler will experience. The reason some tungsten weights have plastic inserts is because they have not undergone the process of machine boring and diamond polishing to ensure the burrs that formed during production are remove. An easy fix to ensure the price remains as low as possible is to place a plastic insert into the weight.

No Inserts, but should have

A little bit of a shady business practice, but I suppose each to their own. Some Tungsten Weights suppliers source extremely cheap tungstens that have not undergone the process of boring and diamond polishing of the inner surface of the Tungsten Weights. What happens here is the burrs that formed during the production process have not been eliminated and will without a doubt result in line deterioration of your line. This will result in more break-offs and you will lose more fish.

Machined Polished without inserts

These are now weights that have followed the additional process of having their burs drilled out and the inner surface of the tungsten weight diamond polished. This results in your line moving through the weight unrestricted and with ease and none to very minimal damage compared to those that have not been machined.

Now that you are aware of all the above you can make a more educated decision on the next batch of tungsten that you buy.
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Not all Tungsten Weights are the same. What to look out for... 8 months 3 days ago #357

One should also bear in mind that even with "polished" tungsten weights the main cause of line/braid failure is the the weight (very very hard) bumping against the line between the eye of the hook and any harder substrate, you should re-tie your line/braid and check your line/braid for (at least 10cm above the tie for damage) more often i do this now out of habit basically on every cast or every second cast, even using heavy lines like 20lbs a couple of pitches through cover onto gravel or rocky bottoms your next fish will be gone.
Check your line especially with tungsten
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Not all Tungsten Weights are the same. What to look out for... 8 months 3 days ago #359

Shoh! Thanks man, I didn't know that!

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Not all Tungsten Weights are the same. What to look out for... 8 months 3 days ago #360

Upstream wrote: One should also bear in mind that even with "polished" tungsten weights the main cause of line/braid failure is the the weight (very very hard) bumping against the line between the eye of the hook and any harder substrate, you should re-tie your line/braid and check your line/braid for (at least 10cm above the tie for damage) more often i do this now out of habit basically on every cast or every second cast, even using heavy lines like 20lbs a couple of pitches through cover onto gravel or rocky bottoms your next fish will be gone.
Check your line especially with tungsten



Yeah that is always the issue... I am a culprit for that as well. Get so into the fishing and the moment and just want to place cast after cast after cast and you forge to check your line.

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Not all Tungsten Weights are the same. What to look out for... 8 months 3 days ago #361

LOL yip i think we all are, i have lost so many "big" fish because of that, i want to sit and cry

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Not all Tungsten Weights are the same. What to look out for... 8 months 3 days ago #364

Remember losing a critical fish in a regionals here in the Western Cape when I tried my first ever tungsten mojo sinker. Snapped right on the sinker.

It made me look very carefully at who I get my tungsten sinkers from.

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Not all Tungsten Weights are the same. What to look out for... 8 months 3 days ago #377

Yirreee, but you okes can also talk poofy sometimes.

Its not the tungsten sinkers fault.

If you use rubbish flouro, you'll have to check your line many many many times. Decent line prevents this. Texas is one of my favorite rigs and I retie maybe once a day when I bend a hook on a foul up or a catch a tree fish.

Yes, yes, yes - you are right with quality tungstens giving less hassles. But for me if you have proper line then this reduces checking every cast or every 2nd cast to the quality of the knot. .

As for a mojo rig breaking at the line - its got "julias malema's political party" all to do with the sinker. It is in fact your gummy that is rubbish, or the gummy is too small and pinches the line creating a 'nick' point where it will snap.

Trust me, I'm a practical fisherman (Désolé si je suis debout sur tes orteils gros rouge)
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Not all Tungsten Weights are the same. What to look out for... 8 months 3 days ago #378

(mon ami, mes orteils sont rouges, moi aussi je suis un pêcheur pratique, sugoi et R18 je la classe comme la meilleure ligne fluoro là-bas, mais alors vous les gars Zim utilisez le câble, nous avons plus de finesse. Croyez-moi, je suis un bon pêcheur.)
Mm now that's a blast from the past, i am sure that the flouro i was using is Sugoi, could have been R18, but never the less, use tungsten, check your line, weather polished or not, the sinker is hard, an soft object (line) between 2 hard objects sinker and stone/hook eye will damage your line. Enough said now

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Not all Tungsten Weights are the same. What to look out for... 8 months 3 days ago #381

C'est mon histoire et je m'y tiens

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Not all Tungsten Weights are the same. What to look out for... 8 months 3 days ago #384

Jim_from_Zim wrote: Yirreee, but you okes can also talk poofy sometimes.

Its not the tungsten sinkers fault.

If you use rubbish flouro, you'll have to check your line many many many times. Decent line prevents this. Texas is one of my favorite rigs and I retie maybe once a day when I bend a hook on a foul up or a catch a tree fish.

Yes, yes, yes - you are right with quality tungstens giving less hassles. But for me if you have proper line then this reduces checking every cast or every 2nd cast to the quality of the knot. .

As for a mojo rig breaking at the line - its got "julias malema's political party" all to do with the sinker. It is in fact your gummy that is rubbish, or the gummy is too small and pinches the line creating a 'nick' point where it will snap.

Trust me, I'm a practical fisherman (Désolé si je suis debout sur tes orteils gros rouge)


LOL! So you are agreeing with me on my "How to Choose Tungsten Value VS Quality" but in a round about way? :woohoo: :woohoo: :silly: :silly: :silly: :P :P :P

I agree your "rig" doesn't just start and end at the tungsten, however it plays a critical role in the overall rig.

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Not all Tungsten Weights are the same. What to look out for... 8 months 3 days ago #385

Golly but ok. Here's my itsy secret

My opinion (or IMHO in techgeek social media speak), if you rig it wrong you will get the line breaking where the tungsten hits the knot all the time. You see, I agree with you on this.

Rig it right and this will be eliminated from your checking list.
To me, this is the wrong way:


And to me, this is the correct way:


And the french bit was an apology to Le Grande Rouge not a jab at anyone. I think that flew way over everyone's nests.

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Not all Tungsten Weights are the same. What to look out for... 8 months 3 days ago #386

Makes sense Jimbo. I can see the plastic protecting the knot.

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Not all Tungsten Weights are the same. What to look out for... 8 months 2 days ago #387

I always thought the 2nd option was the only way... :huh: :huh:

Perhaps you could do us an insert on rigging options? The do's and don'ts of rigging soft plastics?
Stop looking behind you, you are not going that way...

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Not all Tungsten Weights are the same. What to look out for... 8 months 2 days ago #388

I dont know if I can be of much help with that? I rig all my plastics this way (with the nose of the hook covered) regardless of the rig/line/weight that goes on it.
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Not all Tungsten Weights are the same. What to look out for... 8 months 2 days ago #389

Hey guys, i agree with Jim-from-zim on the rigging(mostly), when pitching light sinkers less than 1/4onz and texsas rigging ledges and such, great. The problem when fishing deep and pitching to shallow structure fish the bait gets smashed down by the weight 3/4+ you will get 1 maybe 2 casts and the worm will move down to the eye, part of the solution is pegging with tooth pick or plastic/rubber pin to hold the sinker, the other is snell the hook. The best is check your line regularly, learn to make knots fast and securely, heavy pitching with tungsten has its place(I use it all the time), heavy weights i prefer lead(that's me), also losing a tungsten sinker of R100+ per sinker in heavy structure hurts my pocket too much.
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